You know those searchXXXXXXXXXXX.com websites (searchoracle.techtarget.com, searchvmware.techtarget.com, searchvirtualization.techtarget.com etc)? There are some good articles, but I keep seeing alot of plainly inaccurate articles about virtualized Oracle, especially Oracle under VMware.
I keep seeing these FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt) articles on searchXXXXXXXXXX.com that just bug the hell out of me.
Take this article about Oracle RAC on VMware . They start out with something reasonable and accurate
Oracle will not support customers running Oracle RAC on VMware, for reasons that many say are political and technically outdated.
and then say things that are just completely not true:
“In short, Oracle won’t support it unless the customer can prove that the problem wasn’t related to the virtual machine.
While getting support for single-instance Oracle on VMware is difficult…”
I run multiple Oracle databases and various Oracle products (Oracle E-Business Suite, Oracle Hyperion, Oracle Universal Content Manager, Oracle Hyperion, Oracle Agile, etc) and It is no different to get support for Oracle virtualized under VMware unless troubleshooting leads Oracle Support to suspect your issue is with VMware itself.
The rest of the article I pretty much agree with. I’ve met Dave Welch numerous times and find his outlook on Oracle on VMware similar to mine. Oracle’s stated “we do not support Oracle RAC on VMware” appears to be nothing more than Oracle’s whim with no current technical issues to back it up. As much as I don’t like it, that’s their choice. If / when VMware starts getting Fault Tolerance working with multiple CPUs in a VM, that’s going to mute the argument about needing to run Oracle RAC solely for uptime requirements. Sure, you’ll still have VMs that aren’t good candidates for virtualization (Oracle VM or VMware) but that’s not the bulk of installations out there.
Oracle uses VMware in its training classes – I attended an Oracle Hyperion installation and configuration class last year that utilized VMware Workstation running 3 or 4 VMs on each student’s machine. I’ve worked issues with Oracle Hyperion with Oracle Support and had the analyst not only notice my environment was under VMware, but state that roughly half their customers run Hyperion virtualized under VMware. With Oracle now having Oracle VM and Oracle Virtualbox, you’d think at least Oracle’s own training partners would be using Oracle products in their lab and you’d think if this support was such a big deal that I’d have Oracle’s support telling me about the benefits of Oracle VM when they noticed I was running VMware.
Here’s another article that bugged me, this time about how Oracle VM is not half bad . First line of the article:
“Oracle’s continued refusal to support its applications virtualized on something other than the Oracle VM hypervisor has forced the hands of some users, pushing them to try the Xen-based virtualization offering.”
Did you see what I did? ” Oracle’s continued refusal to support its applications virtualized on something other than the Oracle VM hypervisor..”. That’s simply and plainly wrong.
I’ll end this article quoting from the official stance of Oracle Support with regards to VMware, My Oracle Support (aka Metalink) note 249212.1
Support Status for VMware Virtualized Environments -------------------------------------------------- Oracle has not certified any of its products on VMware virtualized environments. Oracle Support will assist customers running Oracle products on VMware in the following manner: Oracle will only provide support for issues that either are known to occur on the native OS, or can be demonstrated not to be as a result of running on VMware. If a problem is a known Oracle issue, Oracle support will recommend the appropriate solution on the native OS. If that solution does not work in the VMware virtualized environment, the customer will be referred to VMware for support. When the customer can demonstrate that the Oracle solution does not work when running on the native OS, Oracle will resume support, including logging a bug with Oracle Development for investigation if required.
2 thoughts on “a rant about FUD about Oracle on VMware”
I wholeheartedly agree. I too attended Oracle training where the entire lab was on VMware and it was a RAC class. Furthermore, we also have several Oracle databases and products for which we’ve never had a problem getting support running on VMware.
Wow! The Oracle RAC class was on VMware. That’s priceless. When was the class?